A Woman's Right To Choose...
My oldest daughter and I are very musical people.
We both love to sing and perform.
For her 5th birthday, I bought her a microphone and an amplifier. She uses it all the time. We have guitars in the house, a piano, keyboards and all sorts of musical influences, that serve as a constant source of inspiration and encouragement.
The only thing that's been slightly disappointing for me, from a selfish standpoint, is that our tastes in music seem to differ quite a lot.
I grew up loving all things Heavy Metal; Manowar, Scorpions, Metallica, Queensryche and anything else I was able to bang my head to. As I grew older, my musical tastes continued to expand.
Now, I can tolerate most anything, with the exception of all the crap that she likes; Hannah Montana, Ashley Tisdale, Jonas Brothers, Vanessa Hudgens and whatever else she blasts from that shitty, little CD / Clock Radio we put in her bedroom.
It's as if Lucifer himself had a megaphone, standing at a podium of evil, spewing sounds of retched, demons, writhing about in agony, in a pit of fiery despair. Not coincidentally, these demons are all employed by Disney.
Sometimes, I feel like I'm just getting old and it's a part of my transformation into a crotchety, old bag. All parents are meant to feel like their kid's music is too loud and far inferior to what they grew up listening to. Right? My parents probably drove my grandparents crazy listening to the Beatles and Elvis. I drove them crazy listening to Manowar and Kiss. Now my kids will inevitably push me to the brink of insanity by wearing out the High School Musical 3 Soundtrack.
But in the grand scheme of things, it will become painfully obvious that The Beatles, Manowar and Zack Effron were all genius lyricists and musical trendsetters. What a sweet moment of irony that will be for some Musical Historian / Psychotherapist. Until then, it's just a hideous cycle of doom.
Recently, I came up with a plan.
It's actually quite brilliant in its simplicity, if not diabolical in its intent.
I came up with a way to trick my children into liking my music.
All I did was make them think that it was their choice.
You see, I have about 1000 old cd's that are sitting in my basement. I haven't touched them since I ripped them all to my Ipod. They're all shelved neatly, in alphabetical order, in one of those gargantuan, black, faux wood, lazy susan style, cd racks. Remember those? My wife and I decorated our entire first apartment around that fucking monstrosity.
I'm sure those hideous pieces of functional furniture, were the sole motivation for Steve Jobs and his team of developers, when they were working countless hours, designing the prototype for the first Ipods.
Anyway, my kids are always asking me about those CD's and they are constantly asking for my permission to play with them. I always say no, because it only leads to a giant mess for me to clean up.
That just makes them want it more.
But what if I were to find a way to control the mess?
What if I were able channel their curiosity and harness it for the greater good of me? It sounds like molecular science but it's not.
It can be done.
It has been done.
THE PLAN
One night last week when I was getting my 7 year old ready for bed, as always, she asked me to put on some candy ass, demon music, for her to fall asleep to.
I said, "What would you like to hear baby?"
She said, "Can I listen to Corbin Bleu?"
I said, "Absolutely not. That's not sleepy music. That's shit for brains, dance music, sweetheart."
OK, maybe I didn't exactly say that but it's what I was thinking.
But I did offer this suggestion...
"How about we go downstairs and I'll let you pick out one new CD from Daddy's CD rack?"
She sat straight up in bed.
"REALLY? I can pick out any CD I want?"
Knowing I have her right where I want her...
"Absolutely. Any CD you want."
And that's exactly what she did.
We spent about 15 minutes going through my collection, discussing all the different types of music there was to choose from, which ones were my favorite and what singers were alive or dead. She has some sort of obsession with dead artists and she thinks Janis Joplin is ugly. Who am I to disagree?
The amazing thing is that after all these years of trying to push my music on her, in the car or in the house, it finally came down to this. I gave her the opportunity to choose. Of course, it was a controlled group of selected material but it was a fair choice nonetheless.
Now every night, we go downstairs and spin the huge, black tower of ancient song. Round and round and round she goes. Where she stops, nobody knows.
INDIGO GIRLS - Strange Fire
OK, so it's not a perfect system but it sure beats being Out-Numbered by Lucifer and his band of Disney Demons...
We both love to sing and perform.
For her 5th birthday, I bought her a microphone and an amplifier. She uses it all the time. We have guitars in the house, a piano, keyboards and all sorts of musical influences, that serve as a constant source of inspiration and encouragement.
The only thing that's been slightly disappointing for me, from a selfish standpoint, is that our tastes in music seem to differ quite a lot.
I grew up loving all things Heavy Metal; Manowar, Scorpions, Metallica, Queensryche and anything else I was able to bang my head to. As I grew older, my musical tastes continued to expand.
Now, I can tolerate most anything, with the exception of all the crap that she likes; Hannah Montana, Ashley Tisdale, Jonas Brothers, Vanessa Hudgens and whatever else she blasts from that shitty, little CD / Clock Radio we put in her bedroom.
It's as if Lucifer himself had a megaphone, standing at a podium of evil, spewing sounds of retched, demons, writhing about in agony, in a pit of fiery despair. Not coincidentally, these demons are all employed by Disney.
Sometimes, I feel like I'm just getting old and it's a part of my transformation into a crotchety, old bag. All parents are meant to feel like their kid's music is too loud and far inferior to what they grew up listening to. Right? My parents probably drove my grandparents crazy listening to the Beatles and Elvis. I drove them crazy listening to Manowar and Kiss. Now my kids will inevitably push me to the brink of insanity by wearing out the High School Musical 3 Soundtrack.
But in the grand scheme of things, it will become painfully obvious that The Beatles, Manowar and Zack Effron were all genius lyricists and musical trendsetters. What a sweet moment of irony that will be for some Musical Historian / Psychotherapist. Until then, it's just a hideous cycle of doom.
Recently, I came up with a plan.
It's actually quite brilliant in its simplicity, if not diabolical in its intent.
I came up with a way to trick my children into liking my music.
All I did was make them think that it was their choice.
You see, I have about 1000 old cd's that are sitting in my basement. I haven't touched them since I ripped them all to my Ipod. They're all shelved neatly, in alphabetical order, in one of those gargantuan, black, faux wood, lazy susan style, cd racks. Remember those? My wife and I decorated our entire first apartment around that fucking monstrosity.
I'm sure those hideous pieces of functional furniture, were the sole motivation for Steve Jobs and his team of developers, when they were working countless hours, designing the prototype for the first Ipods.
Anyway, my kids are always asking me about those CD's and they are constantly asking for my permission to play with them. I always say no, because it only leads to a giant mess for me to clean up.
That just makes them want it more.
But what if I were to find a way to control the mess?
What if I were able channel their curiosity and harness it for the greater good of me? It sounds like molecular science but it's not.
It can be done.
It has been done.
THE PLAN
One night last week when I was getting my 7 year old ready for bed, as always, she asked me to put on some candy ass, demon music, for her to fall asleep to.
I said, "What would you like to hear baby?"
She said, "Can I listen to Corbin Bleu?"
I said, "Absolutely not. That's not sleepy music. That's shit for brains, dance music, sweetheart."
OK, maybe I didn't exactly say that but it's what I was thinking.
But I did offer this suggestion...
"How about we go downstairs and I'll let you pick out one new CD from Daddy's CD rack?"
She sat straight up in bed.
"REALLY? I can pick out any CD I want?"
Knowing I have her right where I want her...
"Absolutely. Any CD you want."
And that's exactly what she did.
We spent about 15 minutes going through my collection, discussing all the different types of music there was to choose from, which ones were my favorite and what singers were alive or dead. She has some sort of obsession with dead artists and she thinks Janis Joplin is ugly. Who am I to disagree?
The amazing thing is that after all these years of trying to push my music on her, in the car or in the house, it finally came down to this. I gave her the opportunity to choose. Of course, it was a controlled group of selected material but it was a fair choice nonetheless.
Now every night, we go downstairs and spin the huge, black tower of ancient song. Round and round and round she goes. Where she stops, nobody knows.
INDIGO GIRLS - Strange Fire
OK, so it's not a perfect system but it sure beats being Out-Numbered by Lucifer and his band of Disney Demons...
Awesomeness. Did they ever talk you into buying the Head Demonic Musical selections known as KIDZBOP?! I have never spent MY actual money on them but one came for a birthday gift one time and 'accidentally' got broken in my car one time...
ReplyDeleteLove this post. I did sort of a not-on-purpose reverse psychology thing where I made my kids listen to bad 80s music for so long that guess what's in my teen's room right now? Her grandparents' old stereo system (Infiniti speakers, yo) including turntable- and her collection of the Beatles, which she has digitally but prefers on vinyl.
Go figure. ;)
Oh you are very wise! That is a very smart idea. :)
ReplyDeleteMy son's second grade teacher is quite impressed that he knows all the words to many, many songs that were popular in the '80s. She actually emailed me to say that when she started humming a Pat Benetar tune in class, Shane was the only kid who started singing along.
ReplyDeleteGreat thinking - and there are certainly worse things than the Indigo Girls, so it's pretty win-win.
ReplyDeleteVery clever. Though she will force you to face your own pass musical demons, eventually. "Wham? How'd that get in here?"
ReplyDeleteVery clever kid. This is very smart idea
ReplyDeleteThat's a good plan. Although, I wouldn't be able to implement it here because of the mother. In her estimation, my adult contemporary tastes would taint her little prodigies' emo roots. Basically they try to trick me into picking their music. It's a sad world.
ReplyDeleteWe just employed the same manipulation, er, approach. Result? My eight-year old is now a Dead Head. And I am spared Vanessa Hudgens screechy, head-exploding voice.
ReplyDeleteEveryone's a winner, my friend.
Youare a smart man. Thankfully my minions have mostly excellent musical taste (read heavy brainwashing). The baby girl is the only one trying to do the Hannah/Miley whatever. Thankfully she is outnumbered by 3 brothers.
ReplyDeleteI love this one... I have been doing this for a while with my son... it kinda of happened accidentally one day in the car and now he listens to all kinds of music. as the one comment up there said his teacher is always going on about the music he knows and he has such an expansive taste....
ReplyDeleteMy kids love the Beatles. Every time they sing along, I breathe a sigh of relief.
ReplyDeleteMy husband is starting to program our child really early....
ReplyDeleteI am pregnant and he is playing Led Zeppelin to my belly - in lullabye form. They also have CD's of Smashing Pumpkins, Bob Marley, and Rolling Stones. I want to play Elmo, Barry Manilow and classical music.
But right now, I am OUTNUMBERED!!
Love that you and your daughter share a love for music. I think its great!
I think you are a genius. Control and choice is always the issue. Works for music, works for getting kids to eat salad (hint: they make it, they eat it), works for getting them dressed in a timely fashion by having them choose the clothes the night before. Having said that (note the season finale of Curb Your Enthusiasm for the true meaning of "having said that."), if this ultimately fails, the fallback plan is simple. Pink (for your daughter so that she can't resist) ear buds. She can blast HSM3 (I'd have to kill myself just from that)till her ears fall off and you can delight downstairs to a Gene Simmons Revival Festival.
ReplyDeleteOH, and to the anonymous commenter who wants to play Barry Manilow to her unborn child, please keep in mind...eventually, he'll be born and he'll learn how to use weapons.
Well played, OutNumbered! I tried this same technique with daughter2's boyfriend choices. "Hated" the nice guy, "loved" (or more like "tolerated") the bad-boy (who actually was on a tether, if you can stomach that). She was ditched by both and now dates a gump! Maybe this psychological parenting trick, I mean skill, only works with music.
ReplyDeleteHA! I subscribe to the same philosophy...for DVD.s...and have for some time now...Jason, as always, you are right on!
ReplyDeleteCheers!
I thought the devil was into good music! Bill Hicks said that when he died he'd be standing in the lake of fire, rocking out!
ReplyDeleteYou're a poser. I'm surprised she didn't pick one of your 15 Backstreet Boys albums. You call that shit music. As a matter of fact, I remember it appearing more than anything on a top 100 list of yours. This post is bullshit...the pot calling the kettle black.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely brilliant! I told my son that KISS was my first concert and he's questioned my music taste ever since
ReplyDeleteWhat does he know from good?
It is our music responsibility to teach them I say!
May I offer a suggestion, kids like hooks. They will sing them over and over again. Find something with a hook. Of course, I have no kids, but I do understand their television. Whatever that says about me is debatable.
ReplyDeleteKISS - Rock and Roll all night (easy)
Aerosmith - walk this way or dude looks like a lady (poppy, but you gotta start somewhere)...
Excellent choice...I still listen to The Indigo Girls...I try to harmonize with myself! LOL!!
ReplyDeleteGreat advice Nick. I burn CD's with a little of my daughters crap, a couple of cartoon song crap(I turn her on to the classics tho, Bugs and scooby), and then I slip in some of the catchy crap that I once thought was good (and still is but i never put on anymore if not for the kid). You know, the 'gateway drug' to good music... Jackson 5, Beatles... See More, Elvis, the Who, De La Soul, Bob Marley, etc etc. All the greats have some catchy diddy that you can use to suck them in and wet their appetites for more. My girl Loves her Hannah Monstrocitiana but she also rocks out to Wolfmother and Glenn Miller with me. good luck kemosabi,
ReplyDeleteYou started too late. Brainwashing must begin before they can speak coherent words. My lullaby soundtrack is Queen. 'Nuff said.
ReplyDeleteGreat thinking, Jason. Might I recommend pointing her to the indisputably best CD of all time, KISS's "Dressed to Kill"?
ReplyDeleteHa; that's a great idea!
ReplyDeleteMy son favors the "I like to move it, move it" song, sung exactly as the lemurs sing it in Madagascar. Also the theme songs to every cartoon known to man.
He does like Bon Jovi, which is a slight improvement, but if there's one thing that'll turn you off to Bon Jovi, it's hearing "Livin' on a Prayer" several times a day. A capella. For a year.
What a brilliant reward system! Your little girl is very lucky.
ReplyDeleteShe's has great taste too...how exciting for her.
Its gonna be a whole new musical world for her to dip her little toes into.
it was very cute to see her so into the grammys the other night. she gets that from u...
ReplyDeletewhat ? no mention of madonna for our little one???
YUV
ps. What's up with angry mike???
That was a bad day Ronni. We're luck The Brain didn't have anything to say.
ReplyDeleteMy sixteen year old son loves, loves, loves 80's hair metal (and, yeah, I really didn't think that would happen when I was listening to Crue and cleaning the living room). Walked through the dining room one day and he was listening to "We're not gonna take it" by Quiet Riot. I stopped dead and said, "That song is about your Nana and Poppa, if you're listening to that 'cause I told you to get your brother and do the damn dishes, STOP IT!" He laughed his head off.
ReplyDeleteSo, carefull there, they may in time use your own music against you!
Awesome. Disney=Demonic music I love it!!
ReplyDeleteI hate the Jonas Brothers and I would rather have a root canal than listen to Miley Cyrus. My son begged me to check out a KidzBop CD at the library and it sucked, which i quickly convinced him to agree with (he's only 3 making me God in his world). We use our Ipod the way you do, make it their decision with precisley controlled options. It may not always be this way but for now deception is the key to true musical happiness. Way to go Dad!!!
ReplyDeleteThis only works if you have good CD's to begin with. My 6 year old found my own highschool music collection and now I get to listen to Aqua's "Barbie Girl" 16 times a day. Sigh, there's no one to blame but myself.
ReplyDeleteWhen will men learn? You can't control women. Ever. They will catch on and you will pay the price. Enjoy it while you can. :)
ReplyDeleteOh, BTW, I have a little surprise for you on my blog today. Stop on by and see what it is. :) Hugs, Lisa
http://worldaccording2lisa.blogspot.com/2010/02/blowing-sunshine-rainbows-out-my-ass-so.html
Brilliant! But what would you have done if she'd picked out Manowar?
ReplyDeleteIf I wasn't so stubborn, I would call my mom right now and apologize for the years of New Kids on the Block I put her through.
ReplyDeleteBut she deserved it...she was a country fan. It was either "Hangin' Tough" or I would have to listen to Randy Travis...
You are so smart and clever!
ReplyDeleteWhen I babysat this past week, Sophie happened to mention how she gets to listen to "Daddy's" CDs.
It was obvious that she felt very privileged.
So, you're right. You do have her exactly where you want her on this one.
Just wait until she picks something with explicit lyrics that she then starts to repeat to teachers, and ask what they mean.
ReplyDeleteThen you'll be outnumbered!
Perhaps that Sir Mix A Lot anthem, "Baby Got Back" would be a good choice?
ReplyDeleteI LOVE your blog! It's hilarious well done! However- Efron*
ReplyDelete:p hahaha
I take pride in the fact that my almost-4-year-old can listen to the first few chords of Let it Be and identify it by title and artist.
ReplyDeleteI just don't know how to keep her from requesting Boom Boom Pow every time we're in the car.
I've got a lot of work ahead of me, especially since my husband doesn't love music the way I do.
Example 1: Last night I told him that if he bought me a VW Beetle (we're commuter car hunting), I would name it Lennon or perhaps even Ringo. His reaction? Several rapid blinks followed by "where do you come up with this shit"?
Example 2: Vegas, October 2009 - We bought tickets to see LOVE. 15 minutes into the show he's all "this is just fucking weird. I mean, the show is cool, but how do people even know what's going on"? I looked at him and said "see her over there? That's Lucy in the Sky. That creepy lady walking over there is Eleanor Rigby and the guy with the scary mask is The Walrus". I sang almost every lyric to every song and FELT the entire thing. He just thought the jumping and tumbling was neat.
PS:
Yes, I love The Beatles (and a lot of others)